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for Ivan Kosin

by minkabi

person Roya7777
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
Ok, I can't sleep! I kept thinking about Ivan and what had happened and put myself in his position!

For one I would have killed Miller! :D
Then I think I couldn't live with the thought I every one saw me got punished, humiliated, and that everyone hates me! I can't stay, I would run! if I can't run physically, I'll do it mentally. If Mal do something, well ... , if not, I'm lost! really!!!

This question keep flashing in my mind: why didn't Mal search to see who Ivan really was??? I mean he was quite famous, just asking around would give a very clear answer to Mal. By knowing half-way Mal can't help Ivan. He can't have a life, have a family with him.

Ohhhh and I was thinking what if in the middle of these, Ivan finds out that he is pregnant???!!! lol that would be disaster .....

Maybe he got depress to the point that he falls ...

I don't know ... I know I can't stop thinking, and that I can't sleep ... for God's sake , it's 3:20 AM. Please update sooooonnnnn, please (puppy eyes) :p
person Parcel
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
this new chapter has me so rhilled up! im a girl so i know what its like when some victious person or jerk insults you, sometimes for no reasons, and tries to get you pissed off and then i get even more pissed when i cant think of any come backs or my rebuke are only curses. And the worse part is im black at my school even though i have never touched with the intention to harm/ physically harmed someone the last time someone rhilled me up like what happened to Ivan my friends tried to tell me not to bit the hook the other person was throwing but i did and the teachers thought it was my fault automaticallly because apparantly even though nither of us got in trouble before i was because asian trumps black. it also sucked because like your characters because i got more upset i started yelling and the other person was able to insult me and smile.
i know this isnt a mature comment but i hope ivan gets revenge or Karma helps him.
person fmajeur
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
KYAAAA >,< It must be conspiration to get Ivan punished by Malcom! Poor Ivan.
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
... now. after this.

I truly feel sorry for Ivan.
despite all he had done in the past. his childhood sure was screwed up enough, one shouldn't be surprised he turned out like that. twisted. and all.

then being turned into a carrier. was what, i think. the the final straw of cruelty that could have been done to him.
because ivan can only be two things.

a twisted person, who hides all the darkness and cruelty that has happened to him, and tortures others because he's become so twisted.

or a subdued person. the too-perfect, terrified, docile, carrier. who's to engulfed in the darkness that he has now failed to keep away.

currently. i think he's tilting between these two. unable to decide.

i dunno... what are you gonna turn Ivan into?
person nivell
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
Gawd, poor Ivan. While the punishment was not as bad as the punishments he used to deal with other carriers (gosh remembering the treatment that Jesse and Phid got was 10X worse) but how embarassing to be scolded and beaten just like a little kid in front of a crowd. I hope Miller got a beating too for egging him on but he probably didn't...god, the disciplinarian scenes really make me sad.
person fudge
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
ok, Ivan's an ass, but Miller is such a little shit!! ugh!
person Roya7777
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
Ok, second thoughts! :p (I told you, I can't stop thinking about it! That's how a good author you are! ;) )


Ok, ok, why Miller did that?! I mean it seems like he is doing well with the rest of peoplr in the manor but Ivan!!! O.o So, there might be an old vendetta ... hmmm ... does he know Ivan from his childhood or from facilities? or both?! did Ivan heart someone close to him?!

If yes, it make sense still very hateful and still deserve to be chocked >.<
If no, he deserve to be tortured and then chocked! :D

I just want to cry for Ivan. he wants to be strong but his past is like ghost hunting him. He can run from what he was, what he did, ... ohhh and he is so messed up, he can't decide what to do. he can't accept his situation ... he is just so confused, and he can't tell, he can't tell everything to anyone. Maybe if Mal can earn his trust, he would say but how the hell that's gonna happen???!!!

Now, even if Mal asks, Ivan wouldn't tell the truth, he wouldn't reveal what had been said between him and Miller. He is too scared to loose the only person by his side, Mal. He thinks if Mal would know, he would abandon him, and he has no one! :( and he actually like Mal. that makes it more difficult.

I really don't know how Ivan is going to react from now on. I mean he wanted to test Mal and the measure of the punishment. It wasn't bad but the circumstances, the reason and it happened might have the worst effect on Ivan. If it was for talking back, for swearing, for disobedience, ... it was OK. But for defending himself from his past, from some asshole, it was not fare. It wasn't fare that everyone saw it. Malcolm might lose him all together. Ivan might become very obedient, silent and lost. Just a ghost ...

He needed Mal to back him up, not to punish him! Mal did exactly the opposite because he did not know!

The solution I think is "The Talk", which I don't know when is going to happen or if it's not too late already!!!

lol, I'm head over heels (for Ivan). :p

oohhhhh, please update .....
person KitchenSink
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
I love Ivan!
Hn, me thinks that Miller might have an ulterior motive when it comes to Ivan, since most of the carriers 'share' with each other I'm thinking that he might actually want Ivan as twisted as it sounds. Just asIvan might 'want' George. Or maybe Miller just might have used Ivan in either making him look like the spoiled petty princess he accuses him to be or to get rid of maybe an unwanted pregnancy, just saying because for a moment there was focus on miller's stomach and Ivan hitting him.
About malcolm, whoa >.< so sad, I really wanted Malcolm to be nasty to Ivan for my own kinks but not like that and in front of everyone. I love Ivan as much twisted as that might sound he is by far my favorite carrier because he is a jaded character who cant help but continue to play the game of Alpha not willing to admit that he has been defeated. Please update soon I love it when you do, and bring us more Ivan ^^
person FuneralRoses
schedule July 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM
That Miller is such a bitch! I wanted to slap him and Malcolm in this scene! Poor Ivan just isn't getting a chance, and how DARE Miller bring up those kinds of things! You have to be a real low-life to say that to someone who had a childhood like Ivan did, like it's his fault his father is an asshole!
person lia
schedule July 3, 2010 at 12:00 AM
I love this carrier verse!and it was interesting to see Ivan's transition and his inner problems. I felt bad for Malcom though, since he was so nice, and I hope both of them will be allright.